Sunday, July 22, 2012

Former Occupy San Diego Member Attacks Batman Movie

Colorado University images of James E. Holmes

(7/20/2012 10:30 AM) Reports by a Florida private investigator connect the Aurora Colorado shooter with Occupy San Diego.  The motivation for the shooting appears to be the negative portrayal of the Occupy Wall Street movement. There are conflicting reports about this but it fits with our coverage of the plot of the movie. The shooter is being called a "black block" member of occupy who felt the movement was not radical enough.

James E Holmes
1690 Paris St, Apt 10
Aurora, CO 80010-2918

James E. Holmes (DOB 12/13/1987) is 24 years old from San Diego CA.
Bill Warner private investigator at http://www.wbipi.com/

The following pictures are from a site called 9gag. If they are real, the user 9GAGftw is the shooter James E. Holmes and he was incited to violence by users on the site. All references have now been removed, but these are screenshots recovered online. Reports now suggest a rival website created these images as a hoax.




The shooter had dropped out of a Ph.D program at the University of Colorado. He had a degree from U.C. Riverside in Neuroscience. The Holmes family lives in San Diego but may have kicked James out (unconfirmed). James had moved into his Aurora apartment within the last couple weeks.  His father may be faculty at the U.S. Naval War College.

The shooter was not legally carrying firearms but was wearing a bullet-proof vest and dressed in black riot gear. Tear gas was used on the theater patrons. The shooting lasted 15 minutes or more which suggests that all the movie patrons were unarmed.

Immediately after the shooting ABC News' Brian Ross and George Stephanopoulos speculated on Good Morning America that Holmes was a Tea Party member, based solely on a name appearing on a Tea Party website. The person identified is a 52-year-old Hispanic Tea Party member, not the 24 year old shooter.

Reports that the shooter was a registered Democrat may not be correct. It seems that he is not registered to vote or is not part of a major political party.

Hopefully the shooter cooperates with police. Society needs to learn what and why this occurred.

It is very possible that some of this initial information is wrong, but it is the best available at the moment.

Update 11:30 AM PST; Comments from Occupy San Diego:
"Trying to smear a movement that has the support of tens of millions of Americans with the actions of a likely psychotic monster is incredibly disrepectful to the victims, their families and the people of the United States.

If it turns out that the individual had ever participated in any Occupy activity, along with millions of Americans, in a unique forum where NO ONE was denied the chance to contribute, then it means as little about the Occupy movement as the many acts of violence connected to known Tea Party supporters mean about the Tea Party movement's goals.

Actually, it means LESS, since Tea Party sympathizers have been found trying to bomb the border after hearing calls for landmines along the Rio Grande at a Phoenix Tea Party formal speech, for example, whereas the Occupy movement has always stood TOTALLY AGAINST ALL VIOLENCE against people, in every statement, every GA and among the organizers of every major event." Leif
No person contacted in the Occupy San Diego movement recognized James Holmes.

"Black Block" per Occupy San Diego is not a group, it is a tactic.

UPDATE 7/22 3 AM:
0) Answers to comments: At this point, changing the title of the post will not help. The connection to OWS was from a private investigator in Florida. Also, Death threats were associated with the movie due to critics reviews. Many of the reviews mentioned the anti-occupy themes of the movie.

1) Reports that the James Holmes car was from Tennessee and had a Romney bumper-sticker were debunked: Photos revealed the lack of bumper-sticker and the following information:


  • 1690 PARIS ST #10
  • Aurora, CO 80010
  • Hyundai Tiburon
  • Purchased 3/15/2011
  • License Renewed 1/10/2012
  • VIN: KMHJG25F8YU200570
Sample CO license plate
Photos from DailyMail.co.uk here.  Here is a comparison CO license plate.




2) Photos of James Holmes at an Occupy event have been run through facial recognition software with a 96% match. The credibility of the person doing the analysis is at question. The hair is curly in the occupy photo and the person has a beard. The software compares eyes, ears and nose to make matches. Hair changes due to humidity and styling. This is a matter of opinion at this point.
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Comparison Photo:
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3) Corrected reference to medical school - He was in a Ph.D. program.

4) After viewing The Dark Knight Rises movie, I can confirm it is anti-occupy. The villain is short one Occupy Gothem sign to make it explicit. The villains directly attack "Wall Street," hold "people's tribunals," and more. 

Also, the villain makes a statement about using "false hope" to destroy society. This played like a political reference. A reference viewed through my own bias about our current President. 

In the end, the point to the movie could be the inner conflict of Batman against a backdrop of social unrest that threatens to unleash social chaos.

Christopher Nolan has released a statement about the shooting:
"Speaking on behalf of the cast and crew of The Dark Knight Rises, I would like to express our profound sorrow at the senseless tragedy that has befallen the entire Aurora community. I would not presume to know anything about the victims of the shooting but that they were there last night to watch a movie. I believe movies are one of the great American art forms and the shared experience of watching a story unfold on screen is an important and joyful pastime. The movie theater is my home, and the idea that someone would violate that innocent and hopeful place in such an unbearably savage way is devastating to me. Nothing any of us can say could ever adequately express our feelings for the innocent victims of this appalling crime, but our thoughts are with them and their families."
5)  I am a tea partier and not an occupier. It is my goal to be fair, but find the truth. Truth has become so rare that it now interrupts our self-involved fantasy worlds and enrages many of us. Truth has become a blinding light in a pitch black room. It is up to "we the people" to find and remember truth as the media has become to corrupted and unreliable. So, I apologize for anything that I get wrong. Hopefully, you will correct me when needed, but let's remember:

  • Jarod Loughner, a far-left, flag burning, 2012 prophecy, communist manifesto murderer was tied to the tea party. Rep. Gabriel Gifford (D) is remembered but when was the last time you heard the name of  Federal Judge John Roll, appointed by President George H. W. Bush to the bench in 1991? The judge and five others died that day.
  • Fort Hood Islamic terrorist Major Nidal Hasan was active military assigned to help our returning soldiers. Major Hasan encouraged Islamic terrorist suicide bombings, but the Obama administration downplayed his motives to ensure their "terrorism on American soil" count did not rise. Political correctness caused the problem and was then used to dampen discussion and derail the effort to find solutions.
  • Joseph Stack, after writing an anti-corporate, anti-Catholic, anti-corruption, anti-Bush, anti-capitalist manifesto, crashed his plane into an IRS building. His attack had the expressed purpose to wake up "American zombies" to revolt against the government. He was labeled "tea party" because he made the statement "I have just had enough." Stack has been completely forgotten since his death in Feb. 2010. A fact that serves only one master.
The motives of James Holmes are of primary importance. If Holmes is part of a political movement that has become intolerant of opposition to the point of terrorism, we all need to know.  We need to evaluate the situation to find the truth and not allow it be used to further take our rights and responsibilities.  To understand who is really on our side, we need to who is telling the truth.

One other thing is clear, a gun that could have saved lives was not present.

Update 7/22 11 AM:
More pictures are available of the shooter, which may be of use to those who are comparing them to the "occupy photo."
TMZ has a myspace photo: http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/20/batman-massacre-james-holmes-photo/
From AdultFriendFinder, a picture showing red and curly hair: 
ABC News via TMZ video of shooter at about 18 years of age: http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/22/colorado-shooting-james-holmes-video-high-school/

Update 7/22 10:45 PM:
1) Per the Colorado legal definition of Insanity, James Holmes is not insane.

Colorado uses the M'Naghten Rule:
Under the M'Naghten rule, a criminal defendant is not guilty by reason of insanity if, at the time of the alleged criminal act, the defendant was so deranged that she did not know the nature or quality of her actions or, if she knew the nature and quality of her actions, she was so deranged that she did not know that what she was doing was wrong.
Holmes planned the attack for a reason. The planning took up to 4 months. Common usage of the term "crazy" refers to people in an extremely agitated state. The shooter is not "crazy" by common usage, and does not seem to fit the M'Nagthen rule.

Further, the Colorado legislature has reportedly made acts born of revenge, hate and anger exempt from the insanity defense.
..care should be taken not to confuse such mental disease or defect with moral obliquity, mental depravity, or passion growing out of anger, revenge, hatred, or other motives, and kindred evil conditions, for when the act is induced by any of these causes the person is accountable to the law
 2) James Holmes has been targeted by Jailhouse Justice per fellow SLOBs writter Lipstick Underground:
“Kid Killer! Kid Killer! Kid Killer!” 
That was the threatening welcome fellow inmates of the Colorado Arapahoe Detention Center gave unapologetic James Holmes when he arrived at the jailhouse Saturday.
Update 7/23 11 AM:
Another picture with curly red/orange hair to compare to Occupy protester.
Update 7/24 7 PM:
Fellow SLOB WC Varones is reporting that the National Institute of Health was the source of funding for James Holmes.

37 comments:

Kali Katt said...

EXCUSE YOU - I have been a huge part Occupy San Diego and have NEVER seen this man in my life!!!! This is F-ing RIDICULOUS and I find it very infuriating to read this lie

Anonymous said...

How did you connect him to OSD when he was attending univ of Colorado in June of '11 and has since stayed in Colorado? He was in Colorado before OSD stood up. Get your facts straight.

Eva said...

How terribly irresponsible of you, even as just a blogger, to post a headline like that when there is absolutely no link whatsoever between this boy and the Occupy San Diego movement. Just because he is from San Diego does not mean he ever visited Occupy. There is already so much false information taking up web space and brain space. Did you really feel a need to contribute more lies to people's reality tunnels?

Anonymous said...

Your article in no way makes a connection with Occupy San Diego as the sensationalizing title professes... it actually states in the "investigators" report that the supposed connection is with OWS in New York, and that he was in Colorado. Look at your own facts. Also, we're trying hard not to laugh at what you consider a "private investigator".

Anonymous said...

This blogger has repeatedly spread false information for political advantage, and has taken money and favors from Carl DeMaio

No one from Occupy San Diego knows, nor has ever seen this person. So, this blog is spreading misinformation...hardly a surprise considering polls/surveys have demonstrated that Tea Party supporters/Fox News watchers are the LEAST INFORMED of the political spectrum.

Anonymous said...

Change your lying title.

Anonymous said...

Change your lying title.

Anonymous said...

Change your lying title.

Anonymous said...

Change your lying title.

Anonymous said...

Change your lying title.

Anonymous said...

Will come as no surprise if he is an OWS nutter!

Anonymous said...

how exactly do you figure he was with occupy san diego?? i was ALSO with OSD, and i NEVER saw that guy. EVER. not even when i was camping out there, which i was doing 24/7 til the cops beat us down, arrested us and made us leave. NEVER. btw, the WORST our anarchists black blocs ever did was chalk pictures on the sidewalk, which many people did without any mask or WHATEVER. its a military town... do you believe for one second anyone their would even have the BALLS to hurt someone?? to link some sociopathic murdering dillhole to a peaceful protest movement is nothing less than a DAMNED LIE.


With All Due Disrespect,
James L.


ps. get clue and get a life, fat ass blogger.

Anonymous said...

Your urgence to become famous and get more popularity most be very big. Dont lie thats not a good way to achieved that. You state no evidence that he was a OSD member. Who is one anyways?. We are all part of the 99%.

Anonymous said...

This guy dropped out of grad school to join up with the occupy movement and took offense at the movies portrayal of the occupiers leading him to shoot up the theatre.

James L. said...

and how do you know that!?!? WHERE ARE YOUR FACTS??

Anonymous said...

"This guy dropped out of grad school to join up with the occupy movement and took offense at the movies portrayal of the occupiers leading him to shoot up the theatre."

--- And you know this how? Oh wait, you couldn't possibly know that.

Michael Ponsler said...

What ever happened to the word alleged? While I can't say he never spent time at OSD, I can say thief man was not involved in organizing, teaching or deeply engaged in any of the community activities. I do not recall seeing him once at OSD functions, marches or the Freedom Plaza camp. In this case FTP means Fuck The Press!

Michael Ponsler said...

Change the lying title!!

W.C. Varones said...

He's only following ABC News' professional journalistic standards.

Anonymous said...

This was confirmed on the OWS Web site this morning, they have since taken down the page. What these emotion-driven OWS twits don't understand is that they are the useful idiots, being led by brazen terrorists and other nefarious politicians. I don't doubt that some OWS people have good intentions, but the Leigon-movement, the "masses," the "hive" mentality is pure evil.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/occupy-black-bloc-member-james-holmes-shoots-up-au/

MEN TO ADAM said...

I would like to say that I've been an active Occupier from San Diego and I've never seen that guys in my life. So if you don't mind to stop slandering us because it's convenient. You don't have any evidence that such individual is part of OSD. You should be ashamed of yourself for writing this.

Anonymous said...

How many of you occupy people complained when ABC said he was with The Tea Party? Nice double standard. Typical left wing comments.

frithguild said...

Is this James Holmes? Which OWS group is shown in this video?

http://freenj.blogspot.com/2012/07/black-bloc.html

Anonymous said...

The extreme violence may be influenced by many sources, but in the end this nut is crazy. The tea party and the Earl's sponsored occupy group didn't make this psycho pull the trigger. We all need to step back and take a breath. This is not the time for blame. We are all Americans and we need to drop the us vs them BS. We all want to make this country better. Blogger you have our attention. What would you do to relieve to extreme polarization that we are in? How would you make this country stronger and better for the next generation? Psycho's do crazy stuff, we should defuse the situation and bring rational thought back to the greatest country on Earth.

Anonymous said...

Soros sponsored occupy marketing movement. Look up Adbuster, they are the marketing group that invented occupy.

Left Coast Rebel said...

I would say, judging by the commie OWS troll comments here that you are in to something. Great detective work!

kali katt said...

I SPOKE WITH DETECTIVE BILL WARREN TODAY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VibksEEpU8&feature=player_embedded AND THEN DID AN ARTICLE MYSELF www.examiner.com/article/false-reports-surface-that-colorado-shooter-was-part-of-occupy-truth-exposed?fb_comment_id=fbc_10150987293593621_22937669_10150987531868621#f1125ea8c8d9992.

frithguild said...

kali katt - will you respond to my post? RadioFreeNJ has the evidence showing James Holmes is OWS. http://freenj.blogspot.com/2012/07/black-bloc.html Case closed.

Anonymous said...

Occupy "Totally Against Violence" LMAO.... I guess you missed the highlight reel from Occupy Oakland or the violent rhetoric aimed at wealthy Americans across this country.

Anonymous said...

I am totally SHOCKED that "occupy" members know how to use a computer, much less use one that was made by one of the 1%. I guess it's true that if you put a chimp in front of a keyboard that sooner or later they will write something legible.

Anonymous said...

It was absolutely NOT confirmed on the OWS website. There was a forum post that cut and paste the (purely speculative) headline from Bill Warner's website (it has now been edited into a question, BTW). It then linked to back to Warner's site which was making the baseless assertion. The point of the post was to inform people about the guy making the allegation.
How any reasonable person could read that as an admission from OWS that Holmes was 'theirs' is beyond me.
Here is a picture, notice how the link ot Warner's site matches the post title? That's because that's exactly what the headline said on Warner's site.

http://i.imgur.com/9nhgk.jpg

Anonymous said...

No surprise that the filthy dogs of OWS were involved in yet another act of violence against innocents.......rape, murder, child abuse, incest, drug usage, and now.......Massacres.

So typical of "progressives" and leftists who are proud of their lack of morality.

Keith D. said...

Yeah, blame the liberals and progressives! Obviously it's their fault since they're different from "conservatives"!

Here, debunked entirely, in case it wasn't already made clear by everyone with a brain ever.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7123/7635886770_b5ca92b76b_o.png

Alex said...

Are you kidding me? You think those photos are "a matter of opinion"? Anybody with half a brain can see that there are two completely different people depicted on those images! This is the first time I visit your blog, and will also be my last. Feel sorry (in the same way that someone feels sorry for a person with down syndrome) for anyone who reads you and takes you seriously...

Anonymous said...

From Radio Free NJ blog
http://freenj.blogspot.com/2012/07/black-bloc.html

I quote: "I apologize to the man being taken by the police for associating him with a mass murderer. I also apologize for associating OWS with James E. Holmes with images and opinions I posted below. I sincerely regret my mistakes."

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